Well, there’s not much more to do during this pandemic than stay inside, listen to music, and record podcasts about it. Pat and Evan catch up on what they’ve been doing during the pandemic so far and what life has been like since the last season of Repeater wrapped. Join them for tales of couple-isolation, trips to Brazil, and how to lean into Spotify’s algorithm. Subscribe for more eps during this time of downtime.

On this latest LIVE episode of the show, we sit down with data journalist and illustrator Mona Chalabi (Guardian US, BBC, FiveThirtyEight) to discuss the song “No Romance” by Tirzah. Since she’s currently not seeing a therapist, Mona asks us to try and give her insight on what this song means to her. This is a first for us and we end up talking a lot about romance, whether or not it’s a necessary part of life, logic as it relates to romance, and what we’re told about love growing up. How much does love matter to Mona and what does the word even mean? She answers these questions while admitting that she is a “really really really hard person to date.”